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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.24 23:49:00 -
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I speak early, but Im pretty certain my current CEO would go along with the idea of our entire T1 library getting at least some use. We have upwards of 3 or 4 prints of almost every single print in game.
I like the idea and have mulled it around in my head in the past... evemail in game cosmo so we can trade email addys and talk more. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.24 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
The major hurdle I could think of is that jobs run from corp BPOs have to have their input/output from corp hangars, which would mean that there's a risk of corp members stealing from eachother. Another potential problem would be people cancelling eachother's manufacturing jobs (not sure if that's actually possible - that's what I get for always going at it alone ).
Yes it is possible and a potential hurdle.
I will say this, for the time period that we had a free for all at my current corp population peak we only ever had an issue with 2 print sets, that being BS and BC. So we ended up getting an extra 2 each which solved the issue. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.25 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdics But yeh it is open to abuse (people could mass cancel the jobs just for the hell of it causing billions worth of losses in materials going poof)
Generally speaking you would want to field your clientele much the same way anyone would field a new corp member. Interview, API check, eve-search, etc...
I know when we handled it internally in Sanctuary, we had a few tiers of manufacturing. Basic, Jr, and Sr. With each level getting access to better and more varied prints.
The honor system held well since for the most part the minute any shenanigans happened, they were dumped from roles almost immediately.
I'll have to double check the corp roles mgt, but I think its possible to allow job installation but prevent completion. Meaning they can throw jobs in the cooker, but it would require director intervention for them to get the final product.
I'll toy around with my capital alt tomorrow and see what can be done about limiting access to both slots and materials. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.25 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson What about simply copying blueprints and giving them to whoever request them?
And that right there could prolly be the most elegant solution...... nice one Brock |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.25 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic To stop people from stealing other people's produce just have it noted to all producers that their items should have output set to "output hangar". Restrict output hangar access to ONLY staff or yourself. Contract the output to the owner once it comes out. Fairly quick to just set a few contracts (or just dump direct into their hangars).
As per the issue of people trying to claim other peoples goods, this is easy to resolve. The API now tracks science and industry research/manufacturing etc. It lists client name, time of completion, bpo, quantity etc. Everything you need. Now I don't think it shows historical data but i'm sure you could get someone with some basic skills in this area to create you a simple web app that pulls this data hourly so you can track the stuff.
Still mussing with corporate roles, still haven't found a way around the mass cancel problem but I could have sworn the solution is in there somewhere. If I don't find it by today I'll just petition can get a straight answer that way.
Having the dead set rule that all jobs output to X hanger and then having a director contract these items out, could possibly add more overhead than any one director would want to take on depending on the work load. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.28 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped
Anyone else has a better solution? Ideally one that does not require divine intervention? If not, we should probably try to get an answer from CCP regarding the issues and see what they come up with.
If I remember correctly, the answer two years ago was "Database difficulties prevent BPOs in corporate hangars to take from and output to personal hangars.
Although perhaps LV can raise the issue again since it seems a logical corporate asset use. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.28 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Although perhaps LV can raise the issue again since it seems a logical corporate asset use.
That might take a while. Alternatively, we could ask for community support (/signed will do) and then report the thread in order to bring the issues to CCP's attention.
Originally by: cosmoray A wish list for this project.
1. Only people who start jobs can cancel them (or have a role for this defined in corp) 2. Output and input be from personal hangar.
/signed
Brought up in the Assembly hall, feel free to wander over and sign |
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